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iay Jl, 1368 

^Er. L'^berc i>. Love 
!.ov« iJox Coeqiany, Inc. 

'7ichita, Xanaaa 67201 

■^mr Sob J 

Charles itoch uent tiw) a copy of the ;ilcblca newspaper ad, 
'"let's Ott Oit of 7ietii^i Jiosr." 

This is ona o£ those situations '<;I:^re we get cau^t oatween 
tfea John airch Society itnd tfat Freedom School, aad yoa know 
how easy it tmtitcl be ior lae to understand, i^vea tboti^ at 
ihla poiaC I disagree with the viewpoint sxpressed in this 
^d; hoverer, Z aa a vital part of the John 3ircli Society a* 
X 3> of ths Freedom School, and I would not feel it proper 
for roe to put ray n^ae oa any iJi^lie display ad uhich would 
bo dlatoetrlcally opposed to sitter ckw of their positions. 
A3 we has« 20 t'requeatty a^xftmi betvaea us, there ^eeiu to 
be roooi for both, and I don't have nearly the conflict that 
either Bob t?elch or Bob I^avre have in regard to the matter. 

The Vietnam platmed cas^aign that ^^elch has been proaoting, 
however, has produced >:£3rly a million si^atorea an these 
petitions. X d(Mi't think it should be s^otaged now, 

I seriously shink you should consider resigning frcxa die 
Council CO eliminate 'ihis kind of conxllcc, and to avoid 
3X^ precipitotis action, it aight be advis^le for yon ta 
::klp the '^Siicago Cotmcll n^eeting. 

As long as I had 'written ta Cliarles In response to hid note 
and hod mentioned your name in his letter, X felt botmd to 
fiend you a copy ^ich is enclosed. 

Cordially yours. 

Aa. J, Qrede 

liiy 31, 1363 

St. iJiarlaa Caeh 

r.oeh Snsiosexina Caatpaay, tnc. 
:}2t 'fesc Dot^las Aventw 
^Icbifcs, :<anaa« ^7202 

^av Ciuwles: 

'.'our "Jichita ad reprint itwl your oota wra r«c«ived just as X ./as 
laavittij CO attend a ;ne«tiag of d« vUtional Ommcil of 2MCA.' a 

rhew. Incidentally^ I had a vlait vith th« XiKA Secretary sroa 


t have read th« jsd very carefully and I^1li saro that yew s«*« this 
3 lot of coflBideration aeforo arriving at tha co«Iuslo&a and th« 
raceoBBDdatioQ9. the O^BEMinista ha-ve u« in a box viieim -^n are 
JaBSMd if -M do and dssnad 1£ ^e Jim't. 

rh« real problaa it ^eeos to me la that Ute Cana^ataza seen Co 
coDtroX both aidea o£ a» war. Our ^cfVBwwmnt Is aiding tb* Com- 
^unist countriaa --rfjo are supplyiog all the dii»ws oi var to liorth 

'/letnsa, sad at Che sodm time refuslag Co really put up a £i^t 
'^ith vtctory as tae objective. 

As tragic as the aitootloB la In VieCaae, the real tragedy i3 in 
the stm^le for c<mtrol of oar ^onnniiWBt. To withdraw jUI not 
chanQB that* To breali up this sltuatloa, the JaSm 3trcb Society 
has hQ9n circttlatiog petitifflis urgiaa ouk Congw** to ^top giving 
3id to Qur CosBamist eneniaSi ^4w> really conatituta She backbooa 
jf she reslataoce io itortii Vletnaie. It w* could be aucceasfnl ia 
Shis, tha vat 'Jtmld ead rather ijoickly with a ytctory and defeat 
of the COBBHiaiata over there 3S .mII as at hama* 

A ^luick victory is iJOSHible, it ^*aas to kms, if our aoveroreeat '.^'ants 
to ',?in. tf '/e £ollo» your advice at this time and Jutt pall oot, 
than it aeaaa to r:* -;a tiava lost :ha battle at iioeie s^ la ^latnaa. 
This would cause ,*are 4aaage and rjlau|^ter af lanocent isersooa ihan 
even the war 'io^St and with coacinttioa Coosualst crueltyi v^iereaa* 
if ae tnake the sacrifice to win fiie wal, the slauj^ter and .^aaage 
vould b« considerably les« and 'mold sad. 

Car Ji« 1-^^ 

V. 'Carles ■ijycit 
71cliita, T^naaa 57202 

^esa :ire my /Iowa. I'ta not ccrtaia i;rfi«t 3^ Jftlcb ^jould thUA o£ 
-y veasonlag, but htt certalaiy ts nottlog oa a ^iriv« Cor choea 
netitIoo» CO isersuada Ci»igres« co vlthbotd lid ta ottr ComBUolge 
-aeiales 3o that -j* can 'itt^can -''Joirtti Vlatnan .ind g«t the -.ratr «v«r, 
^ith 3 ^a^om of sacrlflc* Aod la die ^^hortest tlmt. 

■fou have rasis^oed item zJbm Society, aut it :;eeme too bad that 3<rf> 
T.i9««, ■who is in the <^iiaeli, joA che others in ^our sroup, .rfio taay 
be asetabera of the ioclet^ and koova a* such* r-nniid lead their naoea 
':» an 3d ^Ich 19 so contrsxy to sresenC Jtrim Elxch Soelety r^rograB. 
There is ixa reasan* tjf course, why they ccuinoe disagree .*lth the 
ioli&f^ but oa a. metter aa iwptxttvnt as thld, it £f«eaa they pt^;e 
thrai^lves ia kind at an untenable posltloa by aitpresains their dis* 
aaceeaene in such a p^lie diapXay id. 

If /ou and 3ob aod these others* i^ioever they aay be, wish to JUbllcXy 
itid vigomisiy launch a c«itt^ry program or ?l««polat, they shooid 
reslsa £rosi die Society ^od t^osh their own prosraa, but titis ad La 
3li3oat Sfdtotaga from vil^in the Society, kt leese -fteb ^jho, as a 
Tieirber at the Coimcil and the ^xtoXUi !nw«K* speaka officially for 
i:he Society should irssi^ fron the (^tmell at^ ther«diy cancel Utis 
authority to soeak for the Society, 

Since I have referred to 3ab Love la tscf letter. I ea sending hlai a 

Cordially youra. 

'-fta, J. Grade 


cc - I'&r. .^bsrt 0. Love 

M I { !^c>^ 

L O y E i3 O '* 1,; -O M PAN Y, S H <Z 

jim.r :5, 1%H 

Union League ( lub 

■^S West fack-son Boulevard 

Ch;cagO: Ulinais 

'kib, Jiie to jppareniiy >najor Ji'ferenueb of ii:)iniu!i on 
fhe Viernam war and che ^tanii I have (.aken and simli 
contiiiue to take, it «eema .idvisable Lhat 1 resign rrom 
ih( Council of rht: fohn Birch :>'V!ety aiKl frort; 'iic 
menniiei-ship as weii. 

Pk ise Hccepi rhis lt;if',M' as ni'i f fique.-ir to you- and ! 
hope cne many t.-icets i>f the pursuit of frfiecloin ^-vil: :« 
3Uccc;sHful, for rVse isake nf ai* oi us. 



Hotx.'t( !?. '_ove 

C:C: Mr. WiJliam {. Grts.!e- 


Charles g. koch ' - ^%B 

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»=3 I sponsored In tf ''°'' ^°^- 
SMday paper t\ ""= "^^hita 

^" your olTnt'e'rlst" .*" '=°P^ 
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June 5, 1968 

Mr. Robert Welch 
L'nlon League Club 
65 West Jackaon Boulevard 
Chicago, Illinois 

Sob, due to apparently major differences of opinion on 
the Vietnam war and the stand I have taken and shall 
continue to take, it seems advisable that I resign from 
the Council of the John Birch Society and from the 
membership as well. 

Please accept this letter as my request to you, and I 
hope Che many facets of the pursuit of freedom will be 
successful, for the sake of all of ua. 


Robert D. Love 

CC: Mr. William J. Grede 


3eIniont, Massachusetts 02178 

Mr. aobert D. Love 

3ox 546 

'M vchita , Kans as 

June \d, 1<)6.^ 


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Dear Bob: 

Thanka ior your letter ot Jane S, -jwhich reached me at the Union 
League Club in Chicago. There was no opportunity for consideration 
there, 30 I delayed until my return to Selmont. 

The recent full-page advertisement in the Wichita paper, demanding 
That the United States 3 imply pull out o£ Vietnam, unconditionally and 
\t once, was like a public campaign against the Society's position which 
is officially on record. The public and our members take for granted 
that you 3.a a member of our COUNCIL are automatically authorized to 
and do speak and have regularly spoken for and on behalf of the Society. 
This, as you know, ia a prerogative which we have carefully guarded. 

Therefore, the advertisennent referred to above not only proclaimed 
publicly a position, with regard to our nation's present responsibilities, 
which is diametrically opposed to the position of the Society -- and, so 
far as I know, of every other member ot our COUNCIL except yourself 
-- but could certainly be construed as organized opposition, We appre- 
ciate, therefore, that to avoid an untenable position it will be better for 
you to be free to proclaim your own view^s without any embamssnnent 
to either the Society or yourself. 

We are, therefore, accepting your resignation from our COUNCIL 
and from the Society. To comply with my obligation to the COUNCIL, a 
photostatic copy of your understanding letter of resignation and of this 
acceptance will be mailed to each member. There will be gradual 
changes in our letterheads and brochures, as new printings are ordered, 
but we shall make no announcement unless you wish us to do so. 

We will continue our efforts and wish you well in whatever you may 
do that helps the anti-Communist cause. 




Robert Welch 

WYMAN-Go:^DOixf Company 


;OllKK'"l' \v, ^I'ODIlAiin 



June 18, 1S68 

Mr. Robart Love 


Love Box Company 

Wichita, Kansas 67201 

Dear Bob: 

I was sorry co receive copy of your letter to Bob Welch and 
his reply, but, of course, I understand the reasons for your feeling. 
'■Julany of us with the same basic goals can have different ideas as to 
methods. It is perfectly possible for individual members to disagree 
on details without jeopardizing the efforts of the Society, but I agree 
that a member of the Council, whether he actually does or not, is 
assumed by outsiders to speak for the Society and must, therefore, 
agree with basic policies and important programs.^' 

The whole Vietnam problem is a distressing one, but we can't 
go back and start over. We have to begin from where we are now, 
and I cannot bring myself to feel that your course is the best one 
long range . 

I-iowever, our interest is in preventing a Communist take over 
and I don't care how this is done as long as we succeed. I hope we 
can continue to count on your support and help in this basic cause 
which so mutually concerns us. I also hope there will be other 
occasions when oui' paths may cross. 

Best personal regards. 

Gc: Mr. William Grede / 

A. B. CHANCE CQ ^^^ 




June 19, 1968 


Mr. Robert D. Love, President 
Love Box Company, Inc. 
Wichita, Kansas 

Bob, I received your newspaper ad and have read it care- 
fully. This letter is in response to my phone call to you 
to find out what it is all about. I also called Bill Grade 
for the sanne purpose. 

As I told you on the phone, Bob, I not only believe we 
must stay in Vietnam and win but that we should have a 
declared war and go all out to win it as quickly as pos- 
sible. Then, maybe the v/ar controls can be lifted. As 
we are now doing we have crisis upon crisis and control 
upon control and never will we lift the emergency meas- 
ures. I say this in spite of the fact that to win the war 
is only half of it. We must win the peace, and to do that 
we must m.ake changes in Washington. 

On the other hand, we can not win the peace until we have 
won the war. The odds we will or can do both is strongly 
against us, but the odds are even greater if we get out of 
Vietnam without a victory. We are in Vietnann because 
we did not do the job in Korea and we will be right back 
in another war until we win it or lose our free country. 
If I had my way we would not have been in Korea or Viet- 
nam, but we are in it. , . so let's win it. I would, however, 
have been in Cuba before now. 

page 2 

Mr. Robert Love 

June 19, 1968 

Bob, I've just returned from a trip around the world. 
My first trip was 41 years ago. These trips have taken 
me to 47 countries and I can report to you that the world 
has changed its views about the Government of the United 
States. Most of them like "we the people", but think our 
Government is lousy. They have nothing but utter disre- 
spect for our foreign policy. We are a paper tiger to them 

can't lick a flea. To get out of Vietnam without a 

complete victory would prove it to them and to us also. 

I sincerely believe the Communists want us to either con- 
tinue as we have or get out for the time being. We tried 
that in Korea. We went into the conference room with 
white flags and we have no peace. It's time we stop run- 
ning our foreign relations to please the Communists. 
Wars are an integral part of this whole Communist Con- 
spiracy;/, and to run from them only causes them to pur- 
sue us. 

Let's not give the mass media an opportunity to make a 
story ouf of this separation, 

I hope to go to Topeka, Saturday, and if I do. ., I will try 
and see you. 

Best regards to you and your good wife. 
F. Gano Chance 

RO B E n T D LO Vt. 

LOVE 30X COMPANY, I H C^^; .:-/: \ -■:(.:'-' V, . '■■ '-'•'* 

Wl C H 1 T A, K A N S AS 1 \- ■[':'.>'..'-■'■"-■ '-^ 

June 20, 1968 ; u^'\ ':.f''^^2£ll}lL 



Mr. Robert W. Stoddard "' %5 

Wyman-Gordon Company- 
Worcester, Massachusetts 01601 

Bob, your kind letter of June ISth is received and most welcome. 
I am well aware of the problems created in any organization 
when someone speaks out of policy, especially in an organiza- 
tion sucli as tlie John Birch Society. I, therefore, understand 
the necessity for my resignation, and I hope, by it all, more 
and more pressure can be put on the administration in Washing- 
ton to get the problem settled. Not claiming to he in possession 
of all the truth, I would like for you to sometime tell me what 
we will do if we win in Viet Nam. Dr. Franz Pick, the famed 
economist of New York City, says we will spend 100 Billion 
Dollars to rebuild Viet Nam, if we win. We cannot afford 
what we are now doing in the way of war, and I can hear the 
liberals scream for the money to rebuild Viet Nam after the 
war, no matter how it ends. We have won each war we have 
been in, except Korea and Viet Nam, and we are going broke 
trying to finance them. You and I are in a comfortable situa- 
tion and could probably survive almost any financial crisis, 
but I do not think this is the case with the bulk of the people in _ 
this country. If we think we have seen riots based on race, wait 
until we couple race riots with welfare riots. As Dr. Mises 
says, "I hope I am not alive when it happens. " 

You are quite right, " we can't go back and start over 

(in Viet Nam). " It is obvious we are like a ship-wrecked 
sailor, and we cannot say we wish we had not been on the ship. 
Tliat is not good enough. We are now in a life- boat and we 
had better get away from where we are, going to a position of 

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:vlr. Stoddard - Page #2 

strength for the impending financial situation, which is nothing 
more than uninformed and unrestrained political activity. For 
two years I Iiave agonized over this course, and the reaction to 
the ad has been quite good. This course is the best one long- 
range, because, if we do not take it, we'll adapt communism 
philosophically and operationally without even knowing it. 
Wage and price controls are right around the corner, and the 
next tax increase is already passed. 

Each of us looks at the problem and says, "Well, it will not 
happen in my lifetime, so I'll do whatever is best not to disturb 
my own life coo much. " 1 am interested in preventing a Com- 
munist takeover, but this will not be done by getting ourselves 
into the position of adapting the tactics of communism in our 
financial and economic practices. You are a good student of 
history and understand that we shall be ruled by the iron hand 
of fiscal sanity, or chaos will result. 

You can certainly always count on my support, and my activity 
will not diminish in the slightest. It is simply that each man 
has a value scale to implement, and, sad to say, organizations 
sometimes cloud the issues rather than clarify them. I am 
certain our efforts here will parallel those of the John Birch 
Society in applying pressure where it should be applied, as 1 
have been unable to see any difference in the goals. 

With best personal regards, 

July 17, ^968 

yxf 2abert Walch 

The John Uirch Society 

Salmont, M=iasachuaett9 J2173 

Ofsar Bob: 

lincioaad ij a propoaad draft of a latter to Or. i?hilltp3. la 
explanation, I r:hink first that :;here ahoiil be a denial that Eils 
rasignatloo t/aa requeatad and, curthermore, I t/ould not indicate 
that Ehfi advertlaament brought matters to a head, -/hlch would 
Indicate fx tang series o£ disagreements. After all, '/a called 
Job's 'Jatenable poaltion to hla attention. iJt' 3 true I juggeated 
that ha ml^t wish to reslssn, but hla action was a voluntary act 
oa his part, and I think it la tionecaeaary to gay that i:he Council 
'lid or did not tmanimously agree. 

I do think that you ought co aay :Ji3methiQg in defeuiw of your 
poaition on Vlatnam- Vta not sura I've satd it correctly, but 
a brief paragraph in thia regard nil^t be helpful. 

For -,jhat it is 'jorth, I send you this djfaft, and X'm stax you vlll 
rsircita It in your own .-ipeeial \fay to ault this occasion* 


^. J. Orede 

■3 -^ \ ^ l //1;/'j8 

caar Ov, /KlLllps: ■— — ^— 

'Jhan tha inconsistency of hta iiosition as a Council ^.ember was called 
CO ilr. Love'fj attention by ona of our Council members, ■..•ithout my 
caquaac sroin ira or anyone elsa nhat ha vaaiijn, ;!r. Lava voluntarily 
i-^signed Stoat the Council .ind the Society. 

In rasponaa to hia tatter o£ reai^iaCion, ona of our nmnbdrs puc It 
'-hia vay, ''Many o£ us :*ith the usanB baaio ^oala can have different 
ideas as !:i5 i^wchods. It ia perfectly possible sor individual meinbara 
CO dlaagrsB on details without jeopardizing cha efforts of the Society, 
Liut I a^ee that a member o£ che Council, ^^hether he actually does or 
not, ia ^asumeci by outsiders "o t^peak for the Society and must, therefore, 
agree 'jith basic policies and Important programs." 

To US it neeitis chat the real struggle ia not In Vietnam but ^/ith our 
government in 'Washington, and i£ ':h«ir present Intentions iice ;is 
aiAvorsiva aa ■« think they are, i/tthdrawing from i/letnfun now would 
in the £lr3t place be a very costly procedure ^nd TTOuld encourage 
similar action ia other parts or the ijorld. To save our aatiooal 
solvency, cha cheapest thing ia to aove in quickly and win the war. 
The proponents of vithdrawal ira jsasualag that the ;^ovemment in 
Washington rtoea not vish our govamment to becoms insolvent and that 
i£ Aey withdrew, they vould aot va-angage, I'm sorry, ■■« don't have 
that much ooniiidanca in our [jovarnment, ,ind so -^ advocate that they 
proceed with their avowed purpose, to atop the Worth Vletnanieae by 
winning the war quickly. 

t/a are not asking you as a meirfjer aS the Society to necasaarlly agree , 
with us, Xhla is our reasoned conclusion. Cut i£ t-re launch a program 
aimtlar to our petition program, ^ich beeomea nationwide, » twuld hope 
chat those in an official position in the Society Tjould at least not 
oppose the program. At no time rwuld you be forced to defend the Society, 
if you disaaraed. 

'.ie would hope that you will reconsider md ri^lnstate your itten&ership, 
but if not, ^,-e still appreciate i:he aupport you have given the Society 
in the paat, and ya hope that your efforts in the anti- Comnunis t mov^nent 
will continue. 

Sincerely yours, 



July 10, 1968 



1 ■-- 

Mr. Hobert jfelch 

The John Slrch Society 

jelmont 78, Mass. 

Dear vj. Welch: 

It Is with regret that I have learned of your request 
for the resignation of Mr. Robert D. Love from the 
national council of the John Birch Society, 

I believed, because of your own repeated statements In 
the bullltin, that the policy of the society was that while 
we have differences of opinion with other conservative 
groups, publlcatlonEi and individuals, we none the less 

fpporxed them In our common cause. For this reason alone 
CO not unaerstanQ your action, I cannot see any great 
dlffarence between the society^s position of win in Viet 
Sam and get out, and Mr. Lovers position of getting out 
now, before we completely spend our country Into bank- 
ruptcy and oolleotivlsm. while defending a South Viet- 
namese government that la dedicated neither to private 
enterprlze nor individual liberty. The end result Is 
essentially the same, except that in one case our 
national solvency might be preserved. Since you have 
repsatedly said we are paying the bills for DOth sides, 
wouldn t It maie better sense to get out right now and 
stop the farce of perpetual war for perpetual peace? 

All Americans owe you a debt of gratitude for building 
the John Birch Society. The society has been a monument 
to the principal that individualistic, strong willed, 
hard headed conservatives can work together. Will it 
continue to be? I hope so, but I am afraid not. Should 
the reaainlng members of the national council fail to 
convince you to recind your request for Mr, Love s 
resignation, then I thinlc there has been a serious slip 
In the rationale that has governed the society, I have 
never been afraid of anything the leadpcs of the society 
migbt say or do, because I knew it would be a reasoned, 
logical position, Now I am greatly oonoemed with what 
might be said or done next. Because I/ao not care to be 
put into a situation where I would be forced to defend 
an Illogical, or unreasoned position, I here request that 
my name and that of my wife, (Mary Ellen Phlllipa), be 
removed from the membership rolls of the John Birch 

Sincerely, ^v- .-?'/t3:2£v^- -■u^f'"^ 
JoEeph C. Phillips, 0, D. ^ 

Jnly 15, 1963 

Jc3euhC. Phillips, O. D. 
7050 -2aat Lincoln 
V7ichita, Kansaa 57207 

Dear Dr. Phillips; 

Cur acceptanca of Mr. Love's resignation from our COUNCIL 
aad froi-n The John Birch Jociety itself .vas unaniraously approved 
■jy the five inembers of our Executive Committee. ■.Ve then sent 
copies of the letter of resignation aad of our letter of acceptance to 
ill other members of our COUNCIL. And v.e liave reason to believe 
that the reaction was practically the same. 

For unfortunately. Dr. Phillips, the situation is not 30 clearcut 
as it jeeined to you. In the ftill-paje advertisem-ent Kj.^-. Love, 7.eU 
iuiown to be a member of our COUNCIL, and thereOy authori zed to 
3 peak officially for the Society , took a position '.vith which every other 
j:neinaer of our COUNCIL strongly disagreed. Thig ,■, as certainly 
embarrassing to us, and probably to Mr. Lave. So it was thig adver- 
tisement which brought matters to a head. But actually this waa merely 
the culmination in a long series of unhappy relations bet-veen A-ir. Love 
and not only the management of the Society but a preponderant majority 
of our meniiJers in the Vvichita area as well. 

'..e do not like to be voicing criticisms of other Conservatives if 
we can avoid it. .. e have preferred and still prefer not to go into any 
of these other disagreements at all. Jo we shall liave to leave the de- 
cision concerning your resignation from the jociety entirely up to 
ivirs. i-hillips and yourself. .'. e hope /ou will reconsider and stay with 
us, of course. But if not, we still appreciate the support you have 
given the :iociety in the past. And we 3Snd our earnest tiianks and kind 
regards to you both, 


i^>V":jm Robert Welch 

*0V ? ^ i96e 


Belmont, Massachusetts 0Z178 November 4, 1968 

Mr. William J. Grade 
c/o Grede Foundries, Inc. 
1320 South First Street 
Milwaukee, Wisconsin 53204 

Dear Bill: 

Enclosed is a carbon copy of a letter I have just written to Charles 
Koch, but which has not yet been mailed. 

It would be far better, of course, if you were willing and could 
spare the time to take the original of this letter with you, see Charles 
and read it to him or with him, and then urge upon him -- if necessary 
-- acceptance of our invitation. 

But there may be any number of reasons why you would prefer not 
to do this, or why it is not practicable within the period immediately 
after the elections when it would seem to me best to issue this invitation. 
In that case, therefore, I should at least like to have the benefit of your 
advice before I send the letter. So if you could call me about it, perhaps 
Wednesday or Thursday of this week, the help certainly would be appre- 

Here's hoping that you had a very successful, and enjoyable, visit 
to California. But we really did miss you at the meeting of the Executive 

As always, my kindest regards. 



RW:ca Robert Welch 

November 4, 1968 

Mr. Charlea G. Koch 
321 V^eat Douglas 
Wiclilta 2, Kansas 

Dear Charles: 

£ver since receiving your reaigiiation from the Society, I have 
wanted to write you a ten-page letter. But I Itnew it would take a hundred 
pages to cover the ground properly. An^ this I did not have time to write, 
nor you to read, ^o I am going to awing all the way in the opposite direction, 
and try to put the points I want to make in three pages. Which means that 
most of the background, and all of the do.cumentation, will have to be omitted. 

(i) your primary concern in Vietftam, the same as our3, is its effect V^ 
on what liappens here at honpe. 3ut you have no alighteat chance, by even 
a hundred fall-page newspaper advertisements, of getting our government 
to withdraw its troops from; this phony war, unless and until such withdrawal 
fits into the comprehensive strategy of the top conspiratorial oligarchy, 
whom we call the Insiders . And we ourselves would have just as little chance 
of getting our government to take the wraps off our m.ilitary forces, use 
what weapons are necessary, go ahead and win the war, and bring our boys 
home — unless and until the Ii^aiders are ready for any such development. 

3eing realists -- as you should be -- we have hot wasted our firing 
power on any such effort. Instead, we have made an attack on the one 
feature of our Vietnam policy which the American people could readily see 
consisted of outright treason; on which they would feel very strongly; and 
where our exposure of the facts, therefore, could have considerable direct 
impact on the situation here at home. This was the policy of continuous 
and massive aid ay our government to the very enemies who were killing 
our boys in Vietnam. And the total of t-.vo million aignaturea which our 
petition drive will reach in 1969 Is going to give a lot of backing to those 
still Loyal people within our government who are trying to counteract the 
treason at work. 

(Z) This difference of opinion was not the real reason, of course, for 
your resignation from the aociety and withdrawal of your advertising from 

Iat. Chariea G, Koch - 2 - November 4, 1963 

American Opinion, 'fou took this step, we are aware, /vbecause of your sense 

of loyalty to Bob Love. We believe that feeling on your part to have been^ f* ata^-"^ 

quite praiseworthy, but entirely mistaken. In fact, by the spring of 1966i.the " 

very subtle, but continuous and unmistakable, efforts of 3ob Love to damage 

the Society, and to create dissension and trouble within our CCfJNCIL, had 

gone on so long and reached so far aa to prompt me to ask your father, in 

confidence, this question: "How sure are you that Bob Love is really on our 


Your father, obviously surprised, replied that Bob Love was a very 
religious naan in whom he -- your father -- thought that we should have full 
confidence. To which I answered: "Good. I just wanted to know how you 
felt. And this gives me the reassurance that I needed. " Contrary to any 
exaggerated rumors you may have heard otherwise, Cliarlea, this is all that 
was said; and this conversation was the only one I ever had with your father 
on this subject. But, although Bob's undernnining activities were very cleverly 
conducted, and not of the kind that would readily have come to the attention of 
your father, this question on my part obviously stayed In his mind, and set 
him, thinking, ao that eventually he reported its purport somewhat more bluntly 
to yourself. 

(3) I do not think that Bob Love is or aver has been a Communiat. I 
do think that he belongs to the lower fringes of what we call the Insiders ; and 
that he sought to use his ability and opportunity to hold back, and make trouble 
for, The John Birch :30ciety, aa a means of climbing higher within those 
circles. To what extent yoiir father was gradually coming to surmise the 
same thing, I do not know. But practically the last words he ever said to me, 
which he certainly pronounced with nriOre than superficial significance when 

I was in Wichita in September, 1967, were: "I don't care what they say to me. 
Bob, I'm going to be at your New York dinner in December. " And he knew 
and I knew that I planned to have a further and longer conversation with him on 
this subject at that time. Unfortunately, the terrible tragedy of his loss in- 

(4) The above leaves unsaid about ninety -five percent of what should 
go into this letter. But after the hundred [lagea it would ail come out with the 
same conclusion. You belong with us in this fight, Chariea, and we need you. 
The John Birch Society is not perfect, and certainly my leadership has many 
shortcomings. But we have enough progress for our enemies to feel -- 
and to have said, as Ear back as three years ago -- that "stamping out The 
John Birch Society was a matter of life and death to the Communiat Party. " 

\iv. Claries O. Koch 

_3 _ November t, i?68 

And despite every weapon of propaganda, oi maa^tve ^=^=^' ""^^f^J^^^^"" 
mbversfon. v.hlch Uiey could tarn againstua. v.e are not only stronger today 
t^n ever ^iiore; out we have done and are doing far more to Inform the 
vTericTn people about the menace of Communiam. and to arouse a strong 
l^ugLpX opinion to slowdown, then 3 top. and finally rout thi. Conspiracy, 
than all other aati-Communlat groups in America put together. 

Not Icnowing how much of our rx^terial. if any. you have ^«»/«^f "« 
m recent Lntha, I am encloaing joat two item.: A Cross Section Of Th_a 
VuTLTxL current November BuUeUn. It has taken twenty years oi 
^to pro^ca the first of these. Charles; and ten years of work and aac- 
. f^e on L part of the members of the Society to mak. ^« ^""^^ J^/*^'* 
liuZ And I?^pe you may .. wiUing to read both, fuUy and thoughtfuUy. if 
you have not already dona 3o. 

(5) For the occasion of my writing this letter at the present time La 
our forLoming Tenth Anniversary Dinner, in ^J-^^''^'^^/^^^^^,^^ ' 
tn anticipation of that event, wo are hereby repeating, m this more formai 
and written ^nner. and with the unanimous endorsement of our ^— t^J' 
Committee, our most cordial invitation for you to become a ^-^^-^fj^' 

vvhlch ha helped to found, 

- - - we are looking forward hopefuUy to a favorable reply, and to ^« P^«"-'« 

of having you on the lis with us at our birthday dinner. In the meantime, I 

send you. as always, my kindest regards. 


^„. Hobert welch 

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